DDA Board Minutes
Cascade Charter Township
Downtown Development Authority
Board of Directors
November 16, 2004
Cascade Museum Building
2839 Thornapple River Dr. SE
ATTENDEES: Ron Clark, Lori Chu, Ray James, Julie Johnson, Mike
Julien, Joann Noto and Dan Wallace.
Absences: Ronald Biermacher (expected) and Diana Kingsland
Others Attending: Township Manager Jay Cravens and Assistant to the
Township Manager Sandra Otey
Guests: None Present
ARTICLE 1: Call the Meeting to Order
Chairman James called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
ARTICLE 2: Approval of the Agenda
Supervisor Julien made a motion to approve the agenda submitted by
staff. Member Wallace seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
ARTICLE 3: Approval of the Minutes of August 17, 2004
Chairman James requested approval of the August 17th Minutes. Member
Julien motioned for approval, Member Chu seconded. Chairman James
opened for discussion of the minutes and Member Johnson requested on
page two (2), second paragraph the first sentence to read:
"Member Johnson reviewed the three (3) items and agreed with the
landscaping." Member Johnson also requested that the first
paragraph under Article 5: Other Business be corrected into noting
that she didn't believe the Board had reviewed the final DDA Plan that
the Township Board approved; she felt she asked that question of the
Board but it was never answered during the meeting. Member Johnson
requested that the DDA Board Meeting be tape recorded for accuracy and
Chairman James said the Board would discuss this item under New
Business later in the agenda. Vice Chairman Clark motioned for
approval of the August 17th Minutes noting amendments, the DDA Board
unanimously approved the amended minutes.
ARTICLE 4: Discussion of Mast Arm Traffic Signals - Cascade Rd. to
Thornhills
Manager Cravens began by stating the Township staff has reviewed mast
arms and the wide varieties available. Manager Cravens noted that
Assistant to the Township Manager, Sandra Otey, has done most of the
research regarding the mast arms and deferred further comments over to
Sandra Otey.
Sandra Otey previously distributed various styles of mast arms,
pole shafts and poles to the Board in October. Otey also distributed
digitally enhanced pictures of various intersections with and without
the mast arms for the Board's review. Otey reported she has spoken
with the City of Wyoming and the City of Grand Rapids regarding their
expenditures for their mast arms and the cost is approximately $80,000
to $100,000 per intersection.
Manager Cravens noted there are a wide variety of styles of arms
and poles and they are also available in various colors but green or
black is the most common and these would match the Township's Village
lights. Manager Cravens stated that the City of Grand Rapids utilizes
Union Metal located in Ohio, Cascade worked with Lumech out of Canada.
Chairman James questioned the financial responsibility of the DDA
if the arm masts were to be installed and Member Julien said that the
Road Commission would install them but the Township DDA would be
responsible for the $80,000 to $100,000 cost per intersection.
Manager Cravens expressed his understandings of the mast arms vs.
hanging signals. Manager Cravens noted that the hanging signals do not
keep the signals in front of the driver if they creep into the middle
of an intersection to conduct a left turn. Manager Cravens noted that
smaller left-turn signals have been added to some of the
intersections; but the hanging lights are not as visible to the
drivers in some circumstances. Manager Cravens also noted that he
understands the concern for too much clutter in intersections if the
mast arms are installed. Manager Cravens did ask why four (4) poles
need to be installed per intersection instead of two (2) setup
diagonally. Again, four (4) poles keep the signals in front of the
driver and two (2) would place the signals over the driver's head.
Otey also noted that pedestrian light poles are also needed at each
intersection. Various Board Members expressed interest in a safety
study done regarding hanging signals vs. mast arms. Member Johnson
also generally noted that the wires will still be visible, she counted
up to 18 wires at the intersections and believes only one (1), maybe
two (2), wire(s) would be eliminated from the intersections if the
mast arms were installed.
Member Chu supported keeping the hanging lights and noted that they
provide a more hometown look. Member Wallace felt the DDA Board should
review safety issues prior to deciding if mast arms should be
installed. Manager Cravens mentioned that the County is already
installing mast arms in other areas. Manager Cravens noted he could
check for a safety study that has been done but noted he will probably
not find one. Chairman James asked if some of the poles could be
removed if the light posts were implemented. Manager Cravens has not
contacted the Road Commission regarding possibly removing the poles;
he was waiting for DDA approval. Manager Cravens reminded the DDA
Board that they will still have final approval of lighting and traffic
signals once the project has reached that point.
Member Julien asked if any of the DDA Board Members are in favor of
the mast arms and why. Member Noto said she is in favor of them and
feels they would reflect the community. Member Johnson said she is
against the mast arms and believes the wires should be buried prior to
mast arm installation; she would like to see the DDA funds go
elsewhere. Member Wallace said he would like to see safety reports
prior to a decision but the expenditures are rather high. Vice
Chairman Clark commented that some of the mast arms bother in him some
of the pictures and in some photos they don't. He expressed concern
with the high costs of implementing the mast arms and is leaning
against them. Member Julien said he would rather spend the money
elsewhere in beautifying the Township. Chairman James summarized that
the DDA Board Members against the mast arms are: Member Chu, Vice
Chairman Clark, Member Johnson, Member Julien, and Member Wallace.
Member Noto was in favor of the mast arms.
ARTICLE 5: Discussion of Sidewalk Widths
Manager Cravens noted a DDA Memorandum dated October 22nd that Otey
previously distributed to the Board Members and noted that all other
city sidewalks are consistent at five (5) feet in width. Member
Johnson also noted that she has spoken with Darrin, Township Buildings
and Grounds Supervisor, for the correct blade width of the plow and it
is five (5) feet, not six (6) feet as previously mentioned. Manager
Cravens noted that the staff prefers the seven (7) foot width for
"forgiveness" of plowing the sidewalk. He noted that the
Township has promised residents that the sidewalks would be plowed and
maintained. The seven (7) foot width provides sufficient width for
maintenance and pedestrian use. Sidewalk widths less than seven (7)
feet are more difficult to plow. Reduced sidewalk widths increases the
likelihood that lawn edges and sprinkler heads will be dug up by snow
plowing. Manager Cravens said the staff prefers the seven (7) foot
width for the sidewalks. Member Julien asked if six (6) foot would be
acceptable. General discussion was held and the question arose if the
five (5) foot sidewalks were primarily in the newer or older section
of the Township. Manager Cravens noted the five (5) foot sidewalks
were primarily in the residential areas. Member Johnson noted that she
visited commercialized areas in Lowell, Ada, Grand Rapids Township and
along 44th Street and measured the sidewalks at four (4) feet in width
and asked why the Township cannot implement these when other
communities are. General discussion was held regarding the maintenance
of these sidewalks in other communities; most don't believe they are
maintained in the winter months. Member Wallace also noted that he
plows the sidewalks in his development and noted the extra room on the
sidewalks allows for snow build-up from the plows and preserves the
landscaping. Chairman James asked the DDA Board if further discussion
was needed regarding sidewalk widths, barring none, no further
discussion.
Article 6: Discussion of Village Area Street Lights
Manager Cravens noted two (2) new fixtures with a downward beam have
been installed on Thornbrook and they appear to be working well.
Chairman James has seen them and he believes they are adequate. Member
Cravens reported that if the streetlights were to have a downward
light cast, each fixture would need to be replaced. Manager Cravens
noted that due to warranties on the current lighting, any modification
to the current lights would void the warranties and the new lights
would cost approximately $795.00 each to replace. Manager Cravens
recommended to the DDA Board that when new poles are added or
replaced, they be done so with the downcast lighting. Member Julien
noted the cost is too expensive to replace each of the lights. He
would like to see the DDA funds be better used. Chairman James asked
if the Township has received any complaints or concerns over the
current lighting. Manager Cravens noted that Member Johnson and Rob
Beahan have expressed concerns but no one else. Member Noto asked if
the downcast lights stand out in comparison to the current ones.
Various Board members haven't noticed a difference and Chairman James
noted that the Library has two (2) of them on the west side of their
parking lot if anyone wanted to go see them to compare. Member Johnson
noted that she can tell the difference between them and thinks it
would look tacky if the lights were replaced as needed. Member Johnson
asked if the glass surrounding the headlamps could be etched or
something to help downcast the light. Manager Cravens did not ask the
light manufacturer if the warranty would be honored if exterior
enhancements were done to the glass surrounding the headlamps. Vice
Chairman Clark motioned for the Township to utilize the downcast
lights for expansion areas and as replacements to existing lights as
long as the replacements are positioned in a tasteful manner. Member
Chu supported the motion. Chairman James asked for all those in favor,
none opposed. Motion approved.
Article 7: Other Business
Chairman James requested any other business the DDA Board would like
to discuss. Member Julien asked Manager Cravens to explain the past
processes of the Township Board and their minutes and utilization of a
tape recorder.
Manager Cravens explained the responsibility of meeting minutes for
the Township (such as Township Board, Planning Commission, and Zoning
Board of Appeals) is that of the Township Clerk. Manager Cravens also
noted that minutes should reflect actions of the Board but are now
also including the dialog that leads to an action. Manager Cravens
explained that the Township Board used to tape record their minutes
but tapes were being taken verbatim and storage became an issue. The
Township Board, for the past six (6) months, has been tape recording
their minutes but once the minutes have been approved by the Board;
the tapes are destroyed. Manager Cravens also noted that prior to
those six (6) months, the Township Board kept the tapes for six (6)
months but eliminated that practice due to tape storage. No further
discussion.
Chairman James requested any other business the Board needs to
conduct and Member Johnson stated she would like to see the red
ribbons on the light posts for the holidays she requested about a year
ago and questioned the smaller size of the wreaths. Manager Cravens
noted that to help save on expenditures the Township decided to
purchase artificial wreaths and Darrin contacted Bronners in
Frankenmuth who recommended the current wreath size. Manager Cravens
also noted that last year, Darrin wrapped the red ribbon around most
of the Village lights but didn't carry it through due to time/labor
involvement. Member Julien supported the red ribbon on all the Village
lights but the Township needs to decide if we have the time and
resources to do so, not the DDA.
Manager Cravens noted a few other items he needed to present to the
Board, the first being the next DDA Board Meeting is scheduled for
February 15th that may be President's Day. There is a potential
conflict of venue with the Zoning Board of Appeals and the DDA meeting
may be held at the Township Offices in February.
Manager Cravens also reported that he has been speaking with Pat
Cornelisse, the City of Wyoming, regarding the development of
streetscape plans from Thornhills to Cascade Road. In their
discussions they have been assessing the current types of trees used,
recent diseases and other challenges to the Ash, Sycamore and other
trees currently used. Manager Cravens said he will be presenting
various pictures of different and unusual trees for DDA consideration
and also looking into shorter trees that won't grow into hanging
wires.
Member Biermacher has also spoken with Manager Cravens recently and
due to his increasing health problems, Member Biermacher will be
submitting a letter of resignation to the DDA Board. Manager Cravens
noted that this creates availability to serving on the DDA Board and
the Board needs to fill this position with someone who owns property
within the DDA and lives in Cascade Township, or find someone who
lives within the DDA district to serve. Member Julien questioned if he
is qualified due to his position with Meijer and their property being
located in the DDA district. Manager Cravens will check into this.
Manager Cravens also noted that one of the property owners in
Glenwood Hills on Kraft contacted Steve to see if the Township would
expand the DDA district into this area. Steve asked that this
individual submit a formal written request. Member Julien noted that
he does not believe this area would qualify within the DDA district
due to taxes and recognizes their financial savvy. Member Julien
requested a compelling statement for DDA review.
Article 8: Chairman James requested a motion for adjournment. Vice
Chairman Clark motioned for adjournment, seconded by Member Wallace.
Meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Lisa Hern, Recording Secretary
Approved as to form by:
Jay W. Cravens, Executive Director

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