Planning
Commission Minutes
MINUTES
Cascade Charter Township Planning Commission
Monday, May 15, 2006
7:00 p.m.
ARTICLE 1. Chairman Goldberg called the meeting to order at 7:00
p.m.
Members Present: Goldberg, Koessel, Lewis, Logue, MacAllister,
McDonald, Robinson.
Members Absent: Postma, Richards
Others Present: Planning Director Peterson, Admin. Assistant Hern and
Members of the Public.
ARTICLE 2. Chairman Goldberg led the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
ARTICLE 3. Chairman Goldberg requested motion for approval of the
May 15th agenda.
Member Robinson motioned for approval of the agenda, supported by
Member Lewis. All in favor with none opposed, the motion carried.
ARTICLE 4. Chairman Goldberg requested motion for approval of the
May 1, 2006 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes. He also noted that
Member Lewis previously noted a correction on Page 9, fourth complete
paragraph down, first sentence "Chairman Goldberg doesn't see the
center lane…" needs to be corrected to: "Chairman Goldberg
said he does see the center lane…"
Member McDonald noted on Page 3, sixth complete paragraph down for
clarification after the word "if" the words "the
property" should be added noting he had asked if the property
south of Cascade Road backs up to the highway.
Member Lewis motioned for approval of the minutes as corrected,
supported by Member Robinson. May 1, 2006 Minutes approved as
corrected. All in favor with none opposed, the motion carried.
ARTICLE 5. Case #06-2802: AJV Ventures, LLC
(Tabled from May 1, 2006)
The Applicant is seeking tentative preliminary approval to create a
site condominium with ten (10) lots in the R-1 Zone.
Chairman Goldberg noted this item had been tabled at the May 1st
Planning Commission Meeting, the Commission requested to hear the
opinions from the Township's Attorney.
Member Robinson motioned to remove this case from the table, supported
by Member McAllister. All in favor with none opposed, Case #06-2802
AJV Ventures, LLC removed from the table.
Chairman Goldberg asked Staff for introductory remarks and Planning
Director Peterson noted the site plan is on the board and copies are
in the Commission's packets. Nothing has changed since first presented
to the Commission with the exception that the Commission did request
the Township's Attorney's opinion regarding a center turn lane on
Cascade Road. The Township Attorney's response is included within the
packets and, again, it is Staff's recommendation that the Commission
award tentative preliminary approval to the Township Board with the
condition that the center turn lane be included in the project. Staff
still believes this would be ideal for Cascade Road and doesn't
believe this project is too different from others that were also
required to install a center turn lane within the Township.
Planning Director Peterson noted in terms of process, this project
is tracking through as a platted subdivision and Applicant is seeking
tentative preliminary approval from the Planning Commission, then move
to the Township Board for their approval and then circles back to the
Planning Commission with more details after the Township Board has
reviewed the tentative plan.
Chairman Goldberg reminded the Commission that the attorney's
opinion is a confidential and privileged document and ask the
Commissioners refrain from discussing the opinion or the contents of
the opinion in public session. If there is a desire by one of the
commissioners to have discussion regarding the opinion and/or its
contents, it would be appropriate for a Commissioner to motion to go
into a Closed Session for that purpose and at that point we would
clear the room and proceed forward with the discussion.
Chairman Goldberg opened the meeting for Commission's discussion.
Member McDonald clarified that this case is just a tentative
preliminary approval and this is not a P.U.D. of any nature, this
would fall into the normal subdivision ordinance and Planning Director
Peterson confirmed that to be correct. Planning Director Peterson
further noted the Applicant is meeting the minimal zoning requirements
and similar to a site plan review. The Township Board will see the
same information and then will come back to the Planning Commission
with the detailed information including approval from the Kent County
Road Commission, approval from the city for utilities, etc.
Member Koessel asked Planning Director Peterson to define the area
the Commissioners have been discussing regarding the center turn lane
on Cascade Road and the anticipated costs to the developer, what the
Township has discussed regarding the expansion of the left turn lane.
Planning Director Peterson noted the center turn lane would be
installed in front of Beard Drive on Cascade Road. He also noted that
one of the ideas the Utility Subcommittee of the Board had was having
the township install a center turn lane in front of Mont Rue and
essentially make it one long center turn lane with tapers. He does not
have cost figures for the total improvement but believes that a good
number, according to the Road Commission, for a center turn lane at
Beard only would be about $60,000.00. Member Koessel asked if the
distance the developer is responsible for regarding the turn lane and
the distance the Township would be responsible for are about the same?
Planning Director Peterson said it appears it would be.
Member Lewis noted that Planning Director Peterson previously
mentioned the Applicant needs approval for sewer and water hook-up, is
there already sewer and water in that area? Planning Director Peterson
said there is sewer and water on Cascade Road and the Applicant will
be pulling up Beard Drive along their property line, as noted on the
site plan, up to their property line and extend into their street.
Member Lewis asked if the other homes on Beard Drive do not have sewer
and water? Planning Director Peterson confirmed that to be correct.
Member Lewis asked who paid for Beard Drive when it was put in?
Planning Director Peterson believes the original developer did. Member
Lewis noted that all the houses above it use it but the original
developer paid for it. Planning Director Peterson said yes noting
those are all public roads but when the original development went in,
the developer paid for it.
Member McDonald asked what the age is of the Beard Drive
development and Chairman Goldberg believes the development went in
1984 or 1985. Member McDonald questioned if Mont Rue went in at the
same time? Planning Director Peterson said he is not sure but assumes
the majority of the project was one (1) phase, he would have to check
the Township's records.
Chairman Goldberg recalled the Commission has heard from the
developer and the attorney at the last meeting and opened the meeting
for Commission's questions of the developer and attorney at this time.
Member McDonald asked Planning Director Peterson regarding
condition number three (iii) that the center turn lane needs to be
indicated on the site plan, since this is a tentative site plan
approval, Staff is asking the developer to put it on the plan and not
deciding who is responsible (i.e. developer, Road Commission,
Township, etc.) for the financial aspect of the left turn lane since
there are no details yet. Planning Director Peterson said that is
correct, Staff is requesting this be a recommendation of their
approval since it has been for the other projects that have installed
center turn lanes.
Chairman Goldberg said his perspective is that it is quite clear to
him that traveling Cascade Road every day a number of times as he
does, the traffic on that road has increased over the years to a point
where it is a safety issue a center turn lane be installed for this
project. This project is coming along, it is adding something to the
traffic load and every project adds to the load on the street that
services access to that development. From his point of view, a center
turn lane is needed at Mont Rue and at Beard in order to provide for a
safe flow of traffic on Cascade Road and allow for those left lane
movements into those developments. This will be a benefit to those
persons traveling Cascade Road and also be a benefit to the persons on
Mont Rue and Beard along with those in the new development. These
other things (i.e. sewer, water, etc.) are all in right now, these
lots are not and they are adding to the burden on an already burdened
thorough fair. They benefit from things that were installed by other
developers, the Township and the Road Commission and various points in
the process; infrastructure benefits the community in general and
infrastructure located within a particular place provides incremental
and special benefits to particular lots that are serviced by it. For
all of those reasons, Chairman Goldberg believes it is appropriate to
require a center turn lane at this point as we approve this
development.
Member Lewis noted he lives in Watermark and when that was
developed, it was not required that a center turn lane be installed.
He knows what it is like to sit on Cascade Road waiting to turn as you
watch cars approach in your review mirror doing sixty (60) miles per
hour and you hope you will not be rear-ended. He also noted that if
coming from the other direction, the high school is there and students
travel fast too. Fortunately, another development has been put in
across from Watermark and they were required to install a center turn
lane, and it is true, he is benefiting from it and thanks that
developer very much for including it within his plat. Safety is the
driving factor, especially along Cascade Road, and this is an
opportunity supporting a safety factor for the people of Cascade and
would support a motion that the third condition be included in the
approval process.
Member Koessel agrees with Member Lewis and also reminded the
Planning Commission that although they did not end up having a
development at the corner of McNider and Cascade that was another
thing the Commission did discuss at the time and that was a one (1)
building development at the time. One of the things discussed at great
length was if the project did go they wanted a center turn lane and he
believes this is being consistent. He noted Chairman Goldberg said
earlier cannot go back and change the past but can improve the future
and there has been one (1) death on Cascade Road from a rear end
collision that now has a center turn lane at Laraway Lake Drive and by
adding additional traffic within the Beard Farms Development are we
creating other opportunities. Agrees with Member Lewis that you do not
want people sitting in a left lane of traffic, waiting to turn left
and hoping they won't be hit. He believes from a safety standpoint, it
makes perfect sense to include it and the Township Board also is
willing to make it safer by extending it to Mont Rue. He supports
adding condition three within the approval.
Member McDonald motioned that the Planning Commission recommend
tentative preliminary approval to create a site condominium with ten
(10) lots in the R-1 Zone stipulated as Staff has presented with
Staff's conditions:
1) The Township Engineer's comments be addressed before the plan is
taken to the Township Board.
2) The four (4) trees per lot need to be shown on the site plan.
Existing trees that the Applicant wishes to count towards these trees
need to be indicated on the plan that they will not be cut down.
3) The Applicant install the center turn lane on Cascade Road at Beard
Dr.
Member Robinson supported the motion.
Member MacAllister questioned if a condition should be added
regarding the closure of Beard Road for two (2) days and Planning
Director Peterson does not believe this would be necessary and
Chairman Goldberg noted there is a second access to the subdivision,
it's not as critical as it might otherwise be.
Chairman Goldberg also noted that the particular stretch of Cascade
Road probably has more young drivers, novice drivers than any other
section of road in the Township because it is one of the two primary
routes to the high school and there are a lot of sixteen year old
kids, without a lot of driving experience, to travel that particular
stretch of road and while safety is always important, it is all the
more important when dealing with a group of novice drivers as the
Commission is, to error on the side of caution and create the safest
environment for them to learn.
Chairman Goldberg asked if there was anymore Commission discussion
and Member Koessel noted he wanted to make sure he understood, there
is a recommended amendment to Member McDonald's motion by Member
Robinson that indicated that rather than showing the center turn lane
that the center turn lane actually be added, is this correct? Chairman
Goldberg indicated that is correct and it be done. Member McDonald
added the center turn lane would be done in some fashion with the
Township, since the Township is going to extend the lane to Mont Rue.
Chairman Goldberg requested further discussion on the motion.
Hearing that there was none, he called to question. All in favor with
none opposed. Motion passed.
ARTICLE 6. Any Other Business
Chairman Goldberg opened the meeting for other business and Member
McDonald asked if this was the last meeting in this building, the
Museum? Planning Director Peterson reminded the Planning Commission
that meetings will now be held at the new Wisner Center.
Member Logue asked regarding the center turn lane on Cascade Road
it is a very real issue and there are other spots that could benefit
from a left turn lane. Member McDonald noted that in other projects, a
traffic study has been done; does the Planning Commission or Township
ask for a study? Planning Director Peterson said the Planning
Commission has the ability to ask for those and is in the Zoning
Ordinance for larger projects. Chairman Goldberg said the Township
Board might request a traffic study if the Road Commission continues
to believe there is not a need for a center turn lane. Member Logue
noted that the more the center turn lanes are installed, the more some
people take them for granted and expect them to be there and they're
not expecting cars waiting to turn left. Member McDonald noted there
are good places and bad places to install center turn lanes and has
seen some use them as a passing lane, but in the case of Cascade Road,
that is a major thorough fair, people are speeding and if there is any
road within Cascade, other than 28th Street, that needs a center left
turn lane it is Cascade Road.
ARTICLE 7. Adjournment
Member MacAllister supported by Member Robinson moved to adjourn. The
motion carried and the meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Claude Robinson, Secretary
Lisa Hern, Recording Secretary

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